Not surprisingly, a lot of people get offended by the fact that I am not in the business of promoting fitness. When I post something to this effect on FaceBook or Twitter some people get very upset and even call me mean names. (I have feelings, ya know)
Now I know this may come as an odd statement, considering what I do for a living and the fact that I am a part of the fitness industry. But I really don’t care to “give the gift of fitness” to people. I’m not going to be showing up at your front door dressed as Richard Simmons and telling you to pull your fanny of the couch because “it’s time to get fit!”
I don’t give a shit.
Before I go any further I should point out that I am not talking to most of my regular readers because, obviously you wouldn’t be here if you fit the description. Rather, I am pointing out the fact that people have often mistaken me for the wrong guy and I am trying to clear that up.
If you want to sit around and eat donuts all day why would that possibly bother me? And why would I want to motivate you? I’m not Jenny Craig or Matt Foley the motivational speaker who lives in a van down by the river. What you do is your choice. Sure I will make fun of you, laugh at you and encourage others to do the same; but it’s your life, not mine.
If you are too stupid to realize that regular exercise and a healthy diet is a necessary part of life I’m not going to waste my time telling you. Get on some prescription drugs, order a sausage pizza and watch another episode of Friends.
People ask me all kinds of questions when they find out what I do for a living.
“How do I lose this?” (grabbing a handful of a 48 inch waist)
“I don’t know.”
“How long should I do the stair climber for?”
“I don’t know.”
“I can’t give up carbs but I want to get lean. What should I do?”
“I don’t know.”
“I only have twenty minutes to train, twice a week. What should I do?”
“I don’t know.”
“I know you’re into all that heavy lifting but I can’t do that. What can I do instead?”
“I don’t know.”
“I’m a girl and I don’t want to get too bulky so how should I lift?”
“I don’t know.”
“How do I get motivated to go to the gym?”
“I don’t know.”
You either want to do something or you don’t. I’m not in the business of motivating people. Sure, I’ll shout some words of encouragement to serious trainees before they attempt a new squat max, and may even question their manhood in an attempt to get them even angrier. And I’ll cheer a guy on during a grueling conditioning finisher, but if you are not internally motivated already, you’re looking toward the wrong guy for help. I just don’t care enough to waste my time on those types of people.
Often times people will tell me that they want to train with me and that I if they hire me or come to my gym I really need to push them. No, I don’t. You need to push yourself. You’re hiring me for my program design skills which are based on 16 years of experience. I am not a cheerleader. Any nitwit can yell at someone like a drill sergeant. Just because a workout is hard doesn’t mean it’s effective. Just because a coach yells loudly it doesn’t mean he’s smart.
If you can’t find it within yourself and are not driven to excel, there is nothing I can do for you.
I’ll give hard working, motivated, intelligent people everything I have. But for everyone else I have no time or patience. I know this offends many people. But it’s just me being honest.
If someone needs to lose 15 pounds of fat in order to compete at a higher level in a weight class sport I’m all for helping them. If someone needs to lose 150 pounds I don’t have a clue what they should do. All I know is they shouldn’t have gotten into that situation in the first place. And allowing themselves to do so shows me they are undisciplined and lazy. I have little tolerance for these types of people.
There’s nothing I like more than helping guys get bigger, stronger and faster. Taking a new guys squat from 225 to 455 is a lot of fun for me. I know how to do that. But I don’t know what fat people should do. I don’t know what lazy people should do. And it doesn’t interest me to find out.
I told some fat people recently that they couldn’t out train a bad diet. Some were offended. They thought that as long as they trained hard on some high intensity circuit type workout a few days a week they would get lean.
They won’t. Nobody gets lean from doing kettlebell swings and burpees. If you’re eating clean, these will help, but unless your diet is spot on you aint losing an ounce. All the exercise in the world will do you no good without eating properly. These are the cold, hard facts, my friends.
So before you send me another email telling me that I am discouraging fat, lazy people from even trying to get fit in the first place, please realize that I don’t care. These are not my kind of people and that is not my market.
You must have the wrong guy.
Please leave your comments below.
31. Jan, 2010
at 11:06 am #
Yesterday someone texted me, “What’s the best detox?” I answered back, “I don’t know.” It felt very liberating. Haha!
31. Jan, 2010
at 11:22 am #
jason – i agree with everything you sed about if you cant motivate yourself then no one can and its not your job to get others to take actions, thats completely true . but to be insenitive and claim that some people , who have real problems, are just lazy is uncalled for. and then to go one better and say they are stupid and weak minded just shows what a deluded person you are. you obviously havent been in the shoes of these so called lazy, undisciplined, stupid and weak minded people so who are you to judge
my 1st impression that you are a tool is definately true and your latest comments comfirm that you are also an immature deluded fool too
kevin – its actually not a concious choice because the concious choice is driven by your emotional state . and when you try to fight your emotional state with your concious will power its a 99% -1% battle, the emotions win everytime just like mike tyson would win a fight against a fly weight every single time
what’s in the mind will always show up in reality.
31. Jan, 2010
at 1:21 pm #
One day people will realize that success requires hard work. I don’t know when this will happen, but it ought to right?
31. Jan, 2010
at 2:37 pm #
@Bret That’s awesome man. “I don’t know” will be my next answer when one of my overweight family members comes and asks me for nutrition/exercise advise. I have sat through many thanksgiving and Christmas gatherings trying to explain to some of them that eating 4 pieces of pie after dinner will have negative effects on their insulin and cortisol levels. That ends now. Thanks for the post Jay.
@at mckenna What is the definition of sed?
31. Jan, 2010
at 4:18 pm #
My trainer told me at our first meeting that he has fired clients who didn’t put forth the effort because he would rather train people who actually do the work. Makes sense. Give your talents to those who utilize them. I’m glad I worked my butt off (literally) because I’m 30 pounds of fat lighter, 33+ inches smaller and several pounds heavier in lean tissue (1/2 way to goal on all fronts). Looking back, perhaps the reason he suggested just 3 sessions to get us started was because I was the one on trial???
31. Jan, 2010
at 4:21 pm #
Harsh but so true.
31. Jan, 2010
at 5:11 pm #
I have read all your blogs since you first started, but I feel quite ashamed to read this article. OK you don’t care- point made. Its obvious your annoyed at telling people the same things over and over again. But how would Uncle Rory or Big Joe have reacted?? They would have just given the person a stare, (thats all- and forgot it) not cry like a little baby on a blog, saying “I don’t care about fat people blah blah”
Your a top guy, but I once thought like u did, but realised there is a professional manner to behave. I studied neuro linguistic programming, and it really helped me, as a coach and as a person.
This is not supposed to be a negative comment, by the way, just a constructive one. I think you needed it said, instead of people keep kissing your ass. We are all equal remember that.
31. Jan, 2010
at 8:15 pm #
I understand your point and it is well taken. Here is another angle for you (us) to think about. . .
Yup, You ARE the wrong guy for a lot of people. Sad truth is that you probably COULD help a bunch more if you would not try so hard to be the big bad tough guy trainer that ONLY trains certain kinds of individuals. I accept the whole specialty area thing, but we will do well (as trainers) to be diversified (skilled)enough to relate to a wider group of clients. It is my first time by your site, I think I’ll stop by again.
Scott
31. Jan, 2010
at 8:30 pm #
Great! I love it but the money one can make in January to March off of the slow and lazy is too great to pass up. Hell, the economy is bad and yes I will scream and yell at them if that makes me a buck. However, I love it, your article that is. I do believe you have to want it in order to get it. Now, I have a bench work out in front of me…later.
31. Jan, 2010
at 8:58 pm #
YES! haha. But seriously, I need to lose 100 lbs! lol
01. Feb, 2010
at 7:24 am #
McKenna. I have been in those shoes. Boozing and smoking. And the thing that woke me up was realizing that it was me that needed to take action and had to FIND the fire.. the motivation to want a better life for myself and those around me. Everyone is responsible for themselves, no matter how hard things are, because noone else will do things for them. If you don’t search, you won’t find. It’s very simple and almost everyone can be motivated to survive with a good kick in the ass. I have had enough of over-politically correct garbage everywhere when it steers away from delivering hard simple truths. Alot more people could use a ‘real’ , message that tells it like it is. And when they are done feeling sorry and sad for themselves (yes, I can say this, because I have been here too), they usually benefit from it. People are tougher and more relilient than they give themselves credit for, but they can never blame anything else for inaction. EVERYONE who is capable of making choices is accountable for themselves, period.
01. Feb, 2010
at 10:15 am #
@andrew gerbers – u know what ”sed” means so ask apart from to just be a petty lndividual? last time i checked this was a message board not an english essay. i pressume you use propper words and full sentences when you txt friends right ?
@kelly m – i agree with everything you just SED. i also have already stated that i agree with the whole article too. i agree that its up to you to do it. if you want something done you are the only person who can do it. you cant rely on others to motivate you if you cant motivate yourself
my problem was simply that i didnt like people being ladelled lazy, undisciplined, stupid and weak minded becasue they cant find the drive to get things done. many people are weak lazy, stupid etc… but an awful lot of people are simple suffering from problems, addictions and unconcious self sabatage/fear that is causing their lack of motivation
and its very rude to label these type of people , who have real problem stopping them from taking action, as stupid and lazy etc…..
01. Feb, 2010
at 10:18 am #
tom venuto actually has a new book out called the body fat solution, which is deirectly aimed at a lot of the probelms that people suffer from that prevents them being able to motivate themselves to stick to a nutrition and training program. an example is emotional eating. thats 1 problem that holds people back and makes them ”lazy” ”undisciplined”
and on the subject of tom venuto . now theres a guy i can take seriously and respect .
jason ferrugia you wouldnt see tom coming out calling people stupid. he is a giant of the nutrition world , your just a plain knob !!!
01. Feb, 2010
at 10:25 am #
Sweet Post!!!! I totally agree!!
I’ve often said that to some of my clients.
Eat well and exercise…its not rocket science!!
Peter, Peter-Built Fitness
Ontario, Canada
01. Feb, 2010
at 10:39 am #
Agreed. I’ve been telling people lately that “I’m not a part of the Jehovah Witness wing of the fitness industry.” If someone doesn’t want to get in shape, that’s not my problem. I’m not here to “save” anyone. If you want help, fine, let’s talk, otherwise, as you say Jason, I don’t care.
01. Feb, 2010
at 11:37 am #
I completely agree with you Jason.
01. Feb, 2010
at 11:49 am #
McKenna,
If you’re so against what Ferruggia is saying…why do you keep coming back to his website and posting on the forum? You obviously aren’t spending enough time in the weight room or on the track/field. Maybe that’s why you advocate for all the lazy fat asses out there because you’re one of those internet trolls who only cruises around the internet calling out seasoned professionals like Ferruggia when you’re just a little bitch who has no experience other than lifting a fork to your mouth.
01. Feb, 2010
at 12:42 pm #
Classic stuff Jason. As a facility owner and operator, I could not agree more.
01. Feb, 2010
at 1:25 pm #
Awesome post Jason – love it. I just opened a facility for combat athletes to train, but I also tried to “branch out” with ladies boot camps etc – I’m having exactly the same problem with one of my campers – underactive thyroid, carb addiction that type of thing…Almost had me questioning myself!!! I did a load of research in the hope of “over delivering” and just wasted my time…Lesson learned – find your niche and stick to it – great posts though mate – love your work!!!
01. Feb, 2010
at 3:46 pm #
Mckenna,
The main point you are missing is that Jason is trying to help you! Let me ask you a question. Who is the bigger asshole, Jason, or the guy who allows you to continue to wallow in your self pity? He writes this way to motivate and inform people like you! How many years will you let go by before you stop thinking about changing your habits and actually DO IT?
If you are overweight and unhappy (forgive me for assuming, but all that pent up anger is quite telling) THAN CHANGE YOUR FUCKING LIFE TODAY MOTHERFUCKER! NOT TOMORROW! RIGHT NOW! Oh, you can’t because you are inferior to a bag of potato chips. Good luck sleeping…
01. Feb, 2010
at 4:10 pm #
I was a fat guy, ten years back. Tipped the scales at 219, almost all of it in my gut. Yup – skinny-fat. Nice look for a 20 year old who couldn’t get laid on Conjugal Visit Sunday.
Was I lazy? Undisciplined? Yes and yes. I ate. A lot. Stress-ate. Boredom-ate. Loneliness-ate. Shame-ate. Just plain ate. Activity? Walking to class was too much of a struggle for me! Seriously – the days I would make it to class, if I had to walk faster to make it, my shins would start to hurt and I would be horribly out of breath.
Whose fault was it? MINE.
I didn’t know who Jason Ferruggia was back then. But I had a friend who was a Navy SEAL, 6’3″, 260, strong as a bear. He used to try to guide me into healthier habits… and then one day, he just stopped. No critique, no lecture, nothing. Why should he have bothered? For all he knew, I was a lost cause. Unfortunately, he’s been overseas for the last 8 years. I wish he could see how I worked to change things. Eating vegetables and fruit regularly; gallon of water a day; dropped over 40 lbs; hit the weights, conditioning, and yoga for a total of 10 training sessions a week; working towards my B.S. in Exercise Phys. – I think he’d be proud.
The point of all that? (Besides bragging about myself, of course…) I get where Jason is coming from. If a student slacks all semester, then comes to the professor two weeks before the final and asks for help in turning an “F” into an “A”, is the professor really supposed to drop everything and tutor the kid who couldn’t be bothered to help themselves?
I’m probably not as extreme in my view as Jason; I work with the general population a bit more. But I have developed my own bullshit threshold. People ask advice. I give it to them. They don’t do it. We’re DONE. Do not EVER come back for more advice. Go back to Planet Fitness; make sure you’re there for Pizza Night…
02. Feb, 2010
at 12:10 pm #
@eskow – its funny that in your post your mention things like ”jason is trying to help you” and ”he writes this way to motivate people like you”
its funny that seens as the whole point of the article , written by jason, was to tell people ”i am not here to help or motivate you” ”if you cant motivate or help yourself then dont come to me ”
jason was just being plain insulting by saying people who are over 100lbs overweight are stupid, weak minded, lazy and undisciplined.
its a persons own responsibiliity to motivate themselves, yes i get that but i dont get calling overweight people names.
and no you are wrong in assuming im overweight and unhappy. not right now but i was in the past. i couldnt motivate myself or stick to any diet or exercise programm, i used to quit all of the time , and sometimes procrastinate for years beofre i even got started
i was that way becasue i had a lot of self sabatage (which is a real probelm not a lack of will) no becasue i was weak, stupid, lazy so thats why i take offence at insensitvie comments like that
03. Feb, 2010
at 8:17 am #
many people, McKenna, yourself excluded by the offense you take at insensitive comments, experience some sort of epiphany, regarding their condition. Many people, myself included, can sit back and say things like ‘man, I WAS stupid, fat and undisciplined’, or something of that nature. And after such a realization, even though they have reprimanded themselves, they choose to do something about it and realize that they don’t HAVE to stay in the same condition or mindset.
One definition of insanity is “repeating the same actions over and over, expecting different results”. We see it in the gym. At work. At life.
I’m not here to psychoanalyze you or anyone else, but there is a common mindset of the people that come to this blog. We have made a choice to be accountable and take action. I can call myself a stupidass for doing something stupid and not feel really bad and defeated, because I know now that I have become empowered by the knowledge that I WILL do something about it. This is growth, that everyone is capable of. And from what I read on these blogs, that’s what these people do. Take action. They do. They strive to overcome. This is a no BS site. Not sticking to a plan and procrastinating = undisciplined. Lazy = unwillingness to set forth a worthwhile effort to accomplish a task, big or small. Fat = 25 or 150 pounds. Fat is fat. Stupid = lacking the mental capacity to make good decisions or learn. Yes, no, and maybe. The availability of information these days is overwhelming. It’s all there and ready for everyone. ANYONE of normal intelligence has the capability to ask questions and seek answers. If children can ask ‘why?’, so can adults. I’d bet money, that in spite of the fact that many people are insulted by ‘insensitive comments’, those same, low esteem, self sabotaging people want the same fiery inspiration that is obvious at this site.
Many people NEED to hear these things, without the politically correct coat of paint. The truth is the truth. The ones that get offended just aren’t hearing what they want to hear. They don’t WANT to do the hard work. Broccoli doesn’t taste as good as a chocolate fudge sundae. Hill sprints aren’t as fun as playing Xbox360. I say to myself… tough shit. get off yer ass and get at it. People want to be ‘fed’ 3-minute abs. And until they take action, they’ll never ‘get it’. Those people need to learn to ‘feed’ themselves. And when they can, then they will likely come here too and finally understand this mindset. I think his last sentence sums up why he says the things he says though. The information found here is good, but it might not be the place for you.
03. Feb, 2010
at 3:13 pm #
Kelly you said it better than I ever could have.
03. Feb, 2010
at 3:30 pm #
I know how you feel i’ve been using your program for awhile now, and i’ve packed on some size and strength and all my friends wanna know my secret and wanna train with me and i tell them to come along but they never get their asses to the gym and it doens’t bother me in the least if they don’t wanna improve themselves.
03. Feb, 2010
at 8:12 pm #
Shout it from the hill tops !!! Great article and couldn’t be more spot on !! It’s sad but true, that these days there are far to many people who need to rely on others to motivate them (I wonder how they get out of bed in the morning??). It’s so bad where i’m from, one gym has made a killing by promoting “we’ll call you if you miss a session” and “rely on us to get you to the gym” WHAT THE !!! if you can’t get to the gym on your own – work out that tv remote thumb !!
Keep keepin’ it real, all these above comments attest to your great work !
V
(from way down under! Oz)
03. Feb, 2010
at 8:22 pm #
Awesome post, Kelly. Thanks for that.
03. Feb, 2010
at 8:47 pm #
One word – Leadership
04. Feb, 2010
at 5:32 pm #
Mr. Ferruggia, you make me laugh. I have been working out with your hardgainer methods for a couple months now and am extremely happy with the results. All my maxes have gone up tremendously and I have gained over 15 pounds of muscle. I love it when I go to work out for football and out lift guys that weight 50 to 60 more pounds than me. I definitely got the right guy.
06. Feb, 2010
at 11:55 am #
Couldn’t have said it better myself. I’m just here to lead them to the water I can’t make them drink it, thats what I tell them when they train with me. It all rests on them and their will to want it. I refuse to act like a stereotypical trainer bouncing around hi-fiving people. F^(k all of that! Work son work, thats what gets the results. And stop eatting all the damn cheeseburgers.
09. Feb, 2010
at 9:35 am #
One of the funniest/ most true articles I have ever read. Something every strength coach is thinking and it’s about time someone said it.
09. Feb, 2010
at 7:33 pm #
I can 100% see where Jason is coming from in regards to the fact that he only has a limited amount of time per day to train clients and he would rather train the hungry, motivated athlete type then someone with less motivation. There is nothing wrong with that as that is his market.
However to some of the people you simply answer “I dont know” too, do you think they ask you those questions because they clearly have very little knowledge about training and nutrition?? I mean some of those questions you posted
“How long should I do the stair climber for?”
“I know you’re into all that heavy lifting but I can’t do that. What can I do instead?”
“I’m a girl and I don’t want to get too bulky so how should I lift?”
I mean I really dont see what is wrong with answering some of those questions. The reason why people lack the motivation is because they are fed bullshit information from magazines and the media, have hired shitty personal trainers and have lost patience with the whole fitness idea.
It wouldnt take much to simply answer
“your better off doing weights than the stair master,” or “unless you have a medical condition I would strongly recommend you hit the weights if you want faster results” and “girls wont get bulky by doing weights unless your eating thousands of junk calories a day etc”
Maybe a simple answer with the right information would spark some serious motivation in some people to head out and change their lives. It might also be a complete waste of time but hey, if you can help that one person, why not??
Im not a trainer yet from time to time I get people coming upto me asking me questions about how to get big and lose weight. Now I know that 70% of them wont take my advice for the good reason that they have been brainwashed one thing and im telling them something different and since Im not a trainer its probably better to listen to the “legimate” source. However the 5 minutes it takes me to explain to me is well worth it if I can kickstart someone onto something better.
However I would bet that most of these people would take your advice knowing your background and history.
10. Feb, 2010
at 3:23 am #
Extremely well put. As a trainer, I sometimes go back and forth on this topic when trying to get certain to do their homework outside of the gym. But the reality is, we need to invest our time in the ones that are willing to invest in themselves.
It really helps to hear someone else put this in to writing. Thanks again.
11. Feb, 2010
at 2:27 pm #
Awesome post. It’s hearing stuff like this that reminds me how I used to be, and how far I’ve come since then. Inspirational. Cheers Jason.
13. Feb, 2010
at 7:45 am #
@McKenna- I think if you check other posts you’ll see that Jason has the utmost respect for Tom Venuto. As I’m sure everyone else who posts on this site does as well. Quit starting internet arguments….check this picture out to understand what I mean.
http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/gregelk/files/2010/01/Internet_argument.jpg
23. Feb, 2010
at 8:43 am #
Jason,
I run a Wrestling school up here in North Jersey and felt an intense satisfaction to finally see a “real gym” around with a “real trainer”. I also work in a private school where I see the degradation of athletic ability all around our youth. Kids don’t even get tested on pull-ups anymore, it’s disgusting. One of my parents told me to check out your site and I just wanted to say that you are spot on with your training methods. For years I’ve been having my wrestlers chop wood, climb ropes, push sleds, and get off those regular gym machines. It’s time tested and exactly what the best in wrestling do to train.
Keep up the good work,
Mike
12. May, 2010
at 11:13 pm #
You mirror my sentiments perfectly! I’m so sick and tired of wasting my precious time on people over a certain weight… I’ve vowed not to work with another soul with more than 20lbs to lose and that’s generous.
Tired of the “I can’ts” and the million different excuses for not showing up. F’ning sick of the countless “OMG, this hurts” or “I need to get rid of my arms and stomach” AND the Whining…keep that shit for beginner trainers who are just so happy to have warm bodies in front of them.
Get fat. Get sick. And then spend the rest of your life nursing yourself back to health…
I’m done with your asses!!!
- And I’m a girl!
13. May, 2010
at 9:15 am #
Good point “you either want to do something or you don’t” couldn’t agree with you more.
27. May, 2010
at 1:42 am #
Shout it from the hill tops !!! Great article and couldn’t be more spot on !! It’s sad but true, that these days there are far to many people who need to rely on others to motivate them. If you can’t get to the gym on your own – work out that tv remote thumb !!
27. May, 2010
at 5:09 am #
Great idea hehehe thanks for sharing your blog…
31. May, 2010
at 5:25 am #
If this article doesnt motivate you to freaking work your ass off, and start eating what you should eat, you’re always gonna stay that way: a fat, lazy, unhealthy piece of…
I dont get it.. Healthy food isnt exactly discusting.. Its pretty damn good! You just have to get your finger out of your personal sewersystem, and change your diet. If you dont know what to eat, start getting yourself together and learn it…
Humans are probably the only species on earth who either doesnt know -what- you’re supposed to eat, or just simply ignore it… Seen many tigers eating bananas lately? :P
Great article, as always ;)
03. Jun, 2010
at 3:53 am #
I hear many different people tell me that they should join me during outdoor strongman sessions… hill sprints… at the gym. And how many actually show? zero. One guy I work with showed up because I mentioned it to him and he showed up ready to go, because he already does things to stay fit. He’s motivated. That’s the kind of guy/gal I want to train with.
05. Jun, 2010
at 10:35 am #
All i can say is that They always ask what supplaments they should take to get big and when you tell them to try a baked potatoe and a steak they get butt hurt.
29. Jun, 2010
at 5:39 am #
awesome, i couldnt have put it better myself, im a kickboxing instructor who makes a huge emphasis on strength and conditioning and often tell people after talking to them that they need to look somewhere else, the average person wants to say they train in full contact, but they dont really want to DO what it takes, so i shine them on
30. Jun, 2010
at 4:17 am #
Its pretty damn good! You just have to get your finger out of your personal sewersystem, and change your diet. If you dont know what to eat, start getting yourself together and learn it, thanx ofr the posting.
12. Jul, 2010
at 10:10 pm #
People always think that hiring a trainer will give them the results they want, but they forget that THEY ARE the ones who train and eat.
Thanks for this great article.
29. Jul, 2010
at 4:34 am #
I have been working out with your hardgainer methods for a couple months now and am extremely happy with the results. All my maxes have gone up tremendously and I have gained over 15 pounds of muscle. I love it when I go to work out for football and out lift guys that weight 50 to 60 more pounds than me. I definitely got the right guy.
10. Jan, 2011
at 10:09 am #
Yo,Jason
That’s a kick ass article (Rant) right there,The problem with today’s society is the gay fitness club pussy crap and the info commercials they put on tv,People like jillian michaels and richard simmons.Where the hell are the real hardcore bodybuilding gyms at these days?You go into these fitness type crap gyms and see fat guys in spandex on the treadmill for 45 min and a year later they still look the same FAIL.
Peace,
Storm
19. Jan, 2011
at 1:13 pm #
You’re the fucking man dude
27. Jan, 2011
at 4:43 am #
I fucking love how you keep it real !