Comments on: The High Protein Myth- Exposed Again

By: deb roby

deb roby — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:41:55 +0000

Just read this one. And have another point that will not show in many of your readers for decades:

Being a healthy, active woman I was shocked when I recent bone density scan showed some osteopenia in my lower spine -though my hips were just fine. I dug deep for an explanation and the only one I found:

when you take in too much protein your body will pull calcium from the bone to equalize the body’s ph- unless you also take in LOTS of deep green vegetables -and a limited amount of whole grains. At 40 gr. dosages -and 96 oz. steaks- I cannot imagine how much spinach, broccoli, kale, etc. you need to consume to keep your ph balanced.

I’ve read that the body can’t absorb more than about 20gr. of protein at a time- so I do agree with your limits and think the men (and ladies) will save them a lot of money by holding to those limitations.

By: Randy

Randy — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:50:29 +0000

Agree. I have never gone over 200 grams a day. I competed nationally in bodybuilding at 231 pounds. And I have benched 700 at 295 pounds. And I did
all this with an average of 150 grams of protein a day. My clients gain on 120-150 grams. I’ve been in the business of muscle for 32 years and to this day still don’t sell protein in my center.
Randy Woody
http://randywoody.com

By: Ihab

Ihab — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:06:06 +0000

Hey Jason. Been reading your log for a long time, first time I comment. About the ‘protein myth’, the study seemed inconclusive to me. It only tested protein intake postworkout.

Were other variables considered? Size/experience of the lifter? Intake of protein at other times of the day? Intake of other nutrients(carbs/fat) at the time they ingested their protein?

I think there are too many variables in the study that were not accounted for to make this hard evidence.

Also, guys like shelby starnes and justin harris are getting people insanely shredded with 1-2 grams of protein per bodyweight.

I’m not trying to blast you or anything, I have great respect for you, but I would like to know your thoughts on my comments.

thanks
Ihab

By: Vic Magary - GymJunkies

Vic Magary - GymJunkies — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:23:53 +0000

Great post Jason! Keep speaking the truth.

By: adam

adam — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:01:20 +0000

Great Article and look forward to more !! It’s true I did the experiment due to circumstances and nothing has changed . Wow who woulda ever thought !! LOL I think the ingredient Jason’s talking about is MSG .

By: jack

jack — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:56:10 +0000

This study was only conducted on whey protein wasn’t it? What’s to say that casein protein synthesis can’t have a significant increase above 20 grams?

Not that I eat more than 1 gram per lb of body mass but after a workout I don’t want to be limiting the amount of protein I’m putting in the tank, going over isn’t as much of a problem as going under right?

jack

By: Thomas J

Thomas J — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:40:53 +0000

Hi,
I ate 210g of protein, 390g of carbs and 70-80g of fats last 1 and a half months and I gained 5 poundsof muscle and 8 pounds of fat… NOt a good progress. Should I lower the number of protein to 150g and increse the number of healthy fats over 100g? I am worried about the combination of high carb a and high fat meals – should I be worried?

By: T-

T- — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:08:03 +0000

Jason, I have a question for you. If I lower my protein, and I’m already eating plenty of green, yellow, and red Veggies, do you recommend eating more grains or more fats like avocado & coconut oil etc. for extra calories?
Thank you

By: jeff phillilps

jeff phillilps — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:58:43 +0000

Thanks for the article. I learned, about 6 years ago about the protein myth. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to realize that what Jason has stated makes perfect sense. I would like to know, however, what is the ingredient in muscle mike that may be dangerous.
thanks
Jeff

By: jasonferruggia

jasonferruggia — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:31:52 +0000

Chase,
I know quite a few people who have had the same “accidental” type experience. It’s surprising at first but a relief when you prove it to yourself that you don’t need all that extra protein.

Tyler,
I hear ya man. Thanks and good luck in the contest. Keep us posted.

Jon,
I know Brad and like ESE a lot. I agree with a lot of his viewpoints. I am also a big fan of short term fasting the way he recommends.

Niel,
I would say that no more than 50-60 grams pre/during/post workout would be sufficient.

Spida,
Very true, my friend.

Carey,
Awesome progress.

Mike,
If you are following carb cycling then you are right, you may need to eat slightly higher protein intakes on low carb days just because you need to eat something. But it will not have some magical anabolic effect. That is really my point. On low carb days I would now tend to recommend no more than a gram per pound and an increase of green vegetables and healthy fats.