I always thought that my shoulders had kind of a “nice shape” until I saw a huge change in my shoulders size and overall look when I started doing barbell clean and presses.

Many of the exercises you describe here are part of my weekly routine.

I’m sharing my comment here for a reason, because I read that Jason indicates Tom Venuto as one to check out for in his knowledge.
as a matter of fact he is. I bought his book, burn the fat feed the muscle, and learned a wealth of information on it.
I got Jason 3XM books as well, and liked so much I cannot stop sticking with it as the best fitness plan had since years.

nevertheless I see some contraddictions in linking people with totally different ideas on things.
In 3XM nutrition, Jason advice to follow the Warrior diet if someone wants to get rid of unwanted fat. Now, the warrior Diet involve the eating of a single huge meal, the dinner, while pinching little food throughout the day until dinner.
I did this kind of nutritional path and found it incredible efficient.

The problem is that guys like Venuto simply run away from this nutritional habit like this as if it is the devil.
Venuto is a strong supporter of eating once every 3 hours, while the warrior diet is totally opposite of this.

So, isn’t it a contraddiction in suggesting to read guys things that fight habit we support?

I think that it would be suitable to take a distance from guys who are contraddicting something we support.

it is the case of Charles Staley. when he suggest to check out a link of a colleagues he takes some proper distance saying things like: “I don’t support all of John Doe says, but it is goods to read what he has to say about”………..

Overall, what can happen is that a Jason reader and supporter reads Venuto articles which fight hard against things who he follow by reading them on Jason manuals. and the chaos is created.

Just my two cents……….

Michael